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Scene by Troy Wenze with critique by marci

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Scene by Troy Wenze with critique by marci

Postby marcib » Sun Apr 03, 2016 3:58 pm

Im doing an edit to this posting because I assumed that Troy is a man.. and she is not. She is a very nice looking lady ... so I am editing the post to change that. zz ( frying pan for me )


I was sent a painting done by Troy Wenze. She paints on her own and requested a critique.. and was gracious enough to let me post it to the forum . Thanks, Troy .

I did some work on it with Paint Shop pro but keep in mind that I didnt spend hours on it and I used a mouse...

First , here is Troy's piece which she painted from a study by Barbara Duncan .
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Troy.jpg


I thought it was handled nicely . and I loved the framing effect of the holly and the light green band.

My first suggestion was to add some veining to the holly ....and she noticed the purple background trees on the left side needed to be straight...

I made some other suggestions and Im posting the rest of my critique here and the my PSP version ..
Another couple of picky observations:
My comments:

First of all, the overall impression of the piece is really wonderful !
The framing effect of the holly and the soft green with the gold you used
on the border really frame and enhance the piece nicely without taking
away the attention . My eyes still go straight to the barns which is
exactly what you want. You want your eyes to go straight to your focal
point or center of interest, then wander around to check out the rest of
the piece but then back to your center of interest ! This piece does that
really well ( Well done!)

Couple of tweaks : The stems on the holly where the two stems are
running parallel . It would be a little more visually interesting to have
them not railroad track . The other section of stem, with the crossing ,
is more varied and more interesting.. and while I dont necessarily mean
that these should cross like the other set does, a little more variation
... maybe a different angle on one.. or variation in spacing, would
improve that section .
The same with the tops of your trees.. You want variation ... Similar
but different ...( like what you did with the bed of the stream... you
have some really gorgeous little edge difference there.. not just a
straight line )
The scene itself could also be improved with a bit more atmospheric
depth . You did well with the different visual planes overlapping (
the birch trees as the first plane, then that hill they are on
overlapping the stream , etc ... but having the same colors on the 2
sets of pine trees makes them both appear to be on the same plane,
when the smaller ones are on a plane that is actually further back
....
The same with the middle ground hills which you have as the same color
as the hills in the front ... and the mountains....
Generally , in nature , as things are further away , they will tend to
be more middle and light values and more blue ( the thickness of the
atmosphere adds the blue cast ) .. Study some pix of how distant hills
and mountains will be lighter than the foreground and more blue and
youll see what I mean ) .... Things in the foreground will have more
detail and generally be warmer and darker .
So adding some washes of blues and purples to those back pine trees,
the middle planes and the mountains will give you more depth in the
painting...
Also, ( this also speaks to visual planes ) : be aware of what the late
Helen Van Wyck ( she used to do an oil painting class on PBS) called "
kissing" ... Thats where two object edges just touch ( kiss ) rather
than have a definite overlap and that can make a confusing visual
plane...
In this piece, the places I see kissing is where the tops of your
shadow trees are right in line with the mountain ... Either the
mountain needs to be taller or the trees do ... Same with the place
where the two barns meet. There should be a definite overlap there or
a space between them . Shading the red on the barn on the right (
LEFT....RIGHT...My right as Im looking at the painting )would make it
look more like it is behind the other barn ....

My PSP version :

Troy4.jpg

and here are the two pieces side by side ( click on the photo to enlarge )

Troy side by side.jpg


NEW!

Troy has repainted the piece adding some of hte suggestions. Here is the new piece.. and then below is a side by side comparison of the original piece and the repainted version .

troy.jpg


troy side by side 2.jpg
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Re: Scene by Troy Wenze with critique by marci

Postby Becky Syroka » Tue Apr 05, 2016 3:56 am

Well done Troy! I love painted landscapes and adding the holly border really makes for a beautiful plate. It is also quite a challenge to paint a white subject (snow scene) onto a white plate. Very nice job.

Really appreciated reading Marci's critique with reminders of several basic principles regarding color and distance and placement of objects in relation to each other. Good reminders for me also and anyone doing a landscape. Can make note of the general principles (which apply to all landscapes) and then go down the list critiquing our own.

Thanks to both of you for posting this for all of us to enjoy viewing and also benefit from.
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Re: Scene by Troy Wenze with critique by marci

Postby marcib » Wed Apr 06, 2016 11:13 am

Thanks, Becky , for taking the time to comment..
I think we sometimes tend to forget that basic art principles apply to china painting too ...and I really like what Troy did to this piece.
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Re: Scene by Troy Wenze with critique by marci

Postby luigi » Thu Apr 14, 2016 11:03 pm

:artist: Thank you Marci and Becky for sharing your knowledge and encouragement!
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